Maybe just require people to indicate what was improved. The judging would be based on how the additions improved the game. So if you add a new level to an otherwise complete game, the rating would be low because it doesn't add much. People voting wouldn't neccassarilly follow that but I don't consider that a big deal. I would still suggest disqualifying entries that don't list what has been improved.

that's interesting, dulsi. If the rating is based on how much the game was improved playability-wise since the pre-jam version, the arguably "finished" games that are just adding a few things are relatively unimproved compared to a game that was essentially unplayable due to incomplete features now being playable.

If there's gonna be a new jam, I hope to be able to join forces with a programmer while I can myself be the artist and musician, I realize "finish an old project" might not be the most ideal theme for a team project like that; it still sounds like a promising idea though! Currently I am personally quite fatigued from programming but I'll still support such a jam.. with something,, just don't know what XD

Aww, that post was very rambly....

Basically though, if there's gonna be a new jam, I'll be in again ^^ 

Though I will go for smaller more polished projects in the future rather than really ambitious, but basically half-assed projects ^^; It seems to me that simple but well executed ideas like Pompeii is what's most competive anyway ^^

And finish an old project is a good candidate for a theme for sure!

And while i can't speak for chasersgaming of course, a finished montropolis would be quite neat...

Oh yes, a finished Monstropolis would be awesome, however i couldn't include that particular game for such a jam as although i havent been posting about the game i have been working on it on and off for a very long time. atually last week i was doing some stuff on it. Im very much still an amatuer at programming and Monstropolis is kind of a big task coding wise for me, so what i like about taking part in the gamejams is the experiance i gain from practicing coding, over coming the hurdles i face, and take that into the next project to make those improvements. Monstroplis is and will be a result of all the efforts made over the last few years of learning. :) Also, im not sure of @Withtheloves intentions about whether this jam will be part of OGA or not and if it is, then would the assets need to be released as before. if so i wouldn't submit Monstropolis as I would want to keep the 'Monty' character to myself, as part of Chasersgaming.

However i have other unfinished games, Never a Doll day was a bit of a disaster, i would love to go back to that and see that through, even 'Lone the elemental stones' didn't get the attention it needed, or deserved from myself i feel, so again i would love to go back to that, but ultimately, if i would do any game at all, it would be the very FIRST game I ever coded, 'Corrado Sprint'. Re-doing that game from what i know now to what i knew then would mark some sort of milestone in my life, and really show the progression from where i was to where i am now. More of a personal thing for me, but im sure we all have different reasons for participating in game jams. What was the first game you made? or just a game idea you had? Maybe you could make those for the jam. :)

@withthelove the jam you ran I would say was a great success, and it didn't put anybody off, I'm glad you run it and I believe the feedback has been positive. I always kinda sat on the fence with holding an ALL OGA assets, the consensus I believed was that some wanted it,some didn't,and I think,for me anyway, that those that would want to participate may not want to release certain assets openenly, so the ALL aspect would rule themselves out, bit like what I've mentioned with Monstroplis above, but for other personal reasons. So I went with the 6 asset rule, to try and cover both bases, To at least favor OGA in some way. However, here for this jam it opens up a different set of questions. It would make sense that if this will be an OGA jam then the assets should be inclusive in some way, but like you mentioned above, what if the project doesn't contain any OGA assets? , does that rule that particular game out?, it would prett much have to,one way around that would be to not be OGA associated, but then that's what's driving the jam, so maybe another way for the 'finish it' jam could be the incentive to not only finish it, but to add,include some assets(but not all) from OGA, if assets have been added to the project then you could require them to share it if you wish, or not. It's a tough one this, if the focus is on the games, then it really shouldn't matter about the assets used, although to incorporate OGA in some way would be good, if the focus is on the assets then it could make certain projects difficult to finish if OGA assets is a requirement for some projects. What do you want to see from this jam?

@withthelove glad you like my games :3 Yours are quality too!

If you have discord we can maybe talk about that medusa thing, I would like to hear more about it but I make no promises ^^'

My discord tag is 

Spring-Enterprises#6354

(If you don't have discord it's also ok, we can talk about it in IRC chat then maybe)

That does seem very restrictive criteria, one that doesn't appeal to myself, i could crack on again with Never a Doll day, which uses OGA assets, but somework is inspired by OGA assets and the idea of having to rework some, and add some, and release them, (although i would love to do it), alone creates a massive impact on workload. But I completely understand your drive for the OGA community and its users, and that it creates a 'Special'' connection.

Feel free to run this in the summer if you want, don't feel your treading on my toes, im all good about it. :)

hmm... maybe an all-OGA requirement is too much, but what about a "must have some OGA resources" requirement? Is there a lot of unfinished projects out there that both do not currently use OGA assets AND have zero asssets that could be added to OGA?

If a project consists entirely of OGA-incompatibly-licensed assets, AND has 100% of it's assets ready, needing no additional assets, how much of an "unfinished" project is it? Not one of the assets used could be added to OGA? not one of the assets already on OGA could be added to the project? Who has such perfect foreknowledge to plan their asset needs flawlessly yet hasn't finished the coding? I'm sure there are some projects like that, but I'm guessing they are few.

Yeah, I spent probably only 10ish hours on the game I was working on for the jam but I spent probably just as much time packaging and researching. I actually made all assets from scratch, so I'd have to pack everything into my game engine and pack everything again into a user-friendly format (which isn't how I pack for my engine) for the oga submission. I really don't mind sharing, everything I've posted so far has been cc0, the most unrestrictive license we have, with the exception of derivatives. The biggest problem I ran into is when I made the music and sfx. Some of the sound packs I used in those could be used freely (some I sampled myself), but some had licenses that could only be used by one end-user, which won't work with OGA submissions. I just really didn't have it in me to open the audio projects back up and figure out which sound was which and replace them. I've made or worked with friends to make music for every jam and personal project except one (the first jam I did).

So, yeah, I'd have to agree with Medicine on this one. The "ALL-OGA" thing turned out to be a bit too steep for me, even with the intent to follow that rule. I much prefer the standard OGA jam rules, because it's pretty much stress-free. I can follow the rules and create stuff that either just isn't worthy for submission or has a singular use, without worrying about how it can be used abroad.

A little confused buddy, so are the rules: use only OGA assets, or use 6 OGA assets?

Or running both alongside, Like Ludlum has has the jam and compo? 

I get ya, sounds good to me, i can back to NaDD if i have the time. :)

Well I would say yes, although, like you say they have already been started, but the idea of picking something up you haven't touched for so long and bring it back to life through a game jam is the incentive to do it, otherwise old projects would just gather dust as there is no reason to even think about them.:) 

the jam can start when you want it to, the notion of letting people know early is so they have the time to search OGA for potential works for there game, find sets and what not, you did say that your happy to entertain ideas aswell, not just physical half started games, so the time  could be of some benefit, as it can take  quite a bit of time searching OGA. But ultimately it's up to you how you run it matey, if you feel it's not neccessary then go with what works best for you.:)

I don't like the restriction on using released projects. It wouldn't neccessarily stop me from joining but I feel it hinders the point of "Finish It." I usually release my games as open source. I tend to put the code up before the game is even fully playable. The exception being opengameart movie video game but that has been released on itch.io. So I would probably have to create a new game.

Woo(f)!!! 

Is there an ending too?

The addendum works for me. OpenGameArt Movie Video Game, Troll Bridge, and Color Monsters are all very rough so I would be happy asking permission. (Or at least they are right now. Maybe by the time of the contest that will have changed but that is a problem I would like to have.)