Well, I'll keep paying for it. It's only a few bucks a month. That being said, it seems to me like it's not doing a very good job of actually filtering spam. The "buy credit card numbers" crap seems to get through it repeatedly even though I've been reporting it as spam and it should frankly be obvious already.
Anyway, if we do get a flood, I can always turn it back on. I'm just not convinced at this point that it really does very much good. In fact, I've got my own module that I built that does some custom regular expression checks, and I find that, since spam tends to be people repeatedly posting the exact same crap, it tends to work pretty well, even though that's not the currently "accepted" way of identifying spam.
Well... the spam filter has been off all night, and unless people are suddenly unable to post at all for some reason, I'm fairly convinced at this point that it's of negative value to the site, and that it's my anti-bot measures that are keeping the influx of spam down.
If this holds true and we don't suddenly get inundted with spam later today, then I have to apologize for running the spam filter at all (if that's the case, I'm a bit irritated that I've actually been *paying* for it, since if it hasn't been silently preventing a huge volume of spam from being posted, which I assumed it was, it hasn't been much better than random chance at determining which posts are actually spammy).
Tell you what... I'm kind of curious how much spam is being stopped by the actual filter, versus how much is being stopped by the bot countermeasures I've put in place. Lately I've been seeing a lot of very spammy stuff get through the filter and a fair amount of legit stuff get mod-queued. I don't know how much, if any, the spam filter is deleting outright.
So I think what I'm going to do is disable it for an hour or two and see if we get a tremendous flood of spam. If so, then clearly that's not the right solution. If not, then it might be worth having people report the relatively small volume of spam that we get right now and not have all these problems with false positives keeping valuable posts from showing up on the forums.
I'm going to lock this thread, because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive. bluenose10, I'm open to comments and suggestions about site usability, but this isn't the right forum for the topic, and being vague isn't the right way to go about reporting issues.
Please post specific issues on the feedback forum.
hello, world
It shouldn't show up anymore.
Also, maybe it's just me, posting comments feels a lot more responsive now.
Well, I'll keep paying for it. It's only a few bucks a month. That being said, it seems to me like it's not doing a very good job of actually filtering spam. The "buy credit card numbers" crap seems to get through it repeatedly even though I've been reporting it as spam and it should frankly be obvious already.
Anyway, if we do get a flood, I can always turn it back on. I'm just not convinced at this point that it really does very much good. In fact, I've got my own module that I built that does some custom regular expression checks, and I find that, since spam tends to be people repeatedly posting the exact same crap, it tends to work pretty well, even though that's not the currently "accepted" way of identifying spam.
Well... the spam filter has been off all night, and unless people are suddenly unable to post at all for some reason, I'm fairly convinced at this point that it's of negative value to the site, and that it's my anti-bot measures that are keeping the influx of spam down.
If this holds true and we don't suddenly get inundted with spam later today, then I have to apologize for running the spam filter at all (if that's the case, I'm a bit irritated that I've actually been *paying* for it, since if it hasn't been silently preventing a huge volume of spam from being posted, which I assumed it was, it hasn't been much better than random chance at determining which posts are actually spammy).
Tell you what... I'm kind of curious how much spam is being stopped by the actual filter, versus how much is being stopped by the bot countermeasures I've put in place. Lately I've been seeing a lot of very spammy stuff get through the filter and a fair amount of legit stuff get mod-queued. I don't know how much, if any, the spam filter is deleting outright.
So I think what I'm going to do is disable it for an hour or two and see if we get a tremendous flood of spam. If so, then clearly that's not the right solution. If not, then it might be worth having people report the relatively small volume of spam that we get right now and not have all these problems with false positives keeping valuable posts from showing up on the forums.
You should be able to attach PSDs now.
I can do that for you. What's the other user's name?
I'm going to lock this thread, because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive. bluenose10, I'm open to comments and suggestions about site usability, but this isn't the right forum for the topic, and being vague isn't the right way to go about reporting issues.
Please post specific issues on the feedback forum.
I suppose at this point it wouldn't hurt to re-use some of the better ideas.
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