Okay, then instead of talking about politics and who knows what better, project needs a clear roadmap.
I think this discussion would be more suitable for a discrod channel or the irc channel but there are many things to talk about and decide before doing any actual development.
First things is to determine the available skill set and time availability of volunteer developers. I am talking as if this is an enterprise software development project, but it IS a software development project and you have to have a actual measure of how much development you can actually do.(you should also consider future maintainability not just development resources available right now)
From there of course people involved should decide on may things. How much custom development drupal 8 vs other alternatives require?(I think amount of custom development went in to the OGA2 backend could give some hints there.) Is it feasible to move on to drupal 8 or use something else developers have more experience on?(Drupal 8 probably cuts down required development work alot though). Will you abondon oga and move to a new site or build on what you already have? Will you try to migrate everyting or archive the forums and use something like discourse for forum side and drupal for the content and only migrate the content? After deciding on those and many others points that will surely come up in discussion, drawing a roadmap should not be too hard.
After you have the roadmap either use gitlab/githubs issues or something like trello to manage development and assign tasks to people.
"Of course there are a lot of problems now with custom modules that are no longer maintained since the creator of the site bailed with the patreon money instead of doing work for it, but I already explained that in detail and got banned 2x for that, so you better deal with that yourself, I cannot help you with that."
Actually did not know that. Maybe just pack up, scrape the site and move on to anew place with an open governance model and restart the project, instead of one guy possibly bailing away with patreon money.
Also i get what you mean, from this thread and the redesign thread i thought that the current infrastructure was unsalvagable/unmaintaniable and required a major rewrite. I thought that this was in part because of using many plugins(stated in both threads a couple of times). I know about modules, i use node and npm, i know the idea, i know what they do. But instead of using a module last updated 6 months ago with only 100 downloads last week for a small task, i just go ahead and implement it myself. And i am just not too familiar with drupal scene, but from what i can see not all modules are really updated all the time. Widely used and popular addons probably has an upgrade path and revenue stream but i do not think all 297 of them has that.
Upgrading from current version to drupal 8(probably with many of the 297 addons not updated for 8) will make the data migration a nightmare anyway.
I am sure there are many plugins in that 297 that does a lot of work and heavy lifting, but number 297 also suggets that there are a lot of plugins used for tiny little things. Use maybe 30-40 plugins that do a lot of work, but write others from scratch, especially the ones that do not rely on any data and just modify the ui. Like for example that play button on sound assets, instead of using 3 plugins that result in a play button with a very grotesque markup, add that to OGA master plugin or whatever you want to call it with markup exactly as you want it.
I understand the reason for the use of the drupal and all 297 addons is because limited developer availabilty but maintaning that has to be a NIGHTMARE and a huge time sink when conflicts happend these stuff do not want to work together. Also probably many potential security issues.
I suggest that make it all a custom single OGA plugin. That is if it has to be Drupal. If the avaliable developers have limited Drupal 8 knowledge(D8 kinda has a high barrier for entry), i suggest something like; start with Laravel or Statamic and go from there.
What i meant by "directly on the drupal theme" was that you have a base development setup/theme and need the html/css work done on those. And by "just html/css/js" i meant that i build or help you build a static html+css+js and we go from there and at the end you convert it to a drupal theme.
Also i installed Drupal 8 and the theme from github on my local machine, but i am not sure if you have a spesific content type/setting stuff going on, or if the drupal 8 plugin work started.
I do not participate much on the forums, but i'd like to chime in.
I am a full stack web developer, i know php,html,css,js(among many other back-end languages and frameworks and many of the popuplar front-end frameworks(vue,angular,react), i can do everything vanilla js too.) This project clearly needs help, and i want to help but i need a few pointers and have few questions.
Do you actually want outside help apart from comments/criticism ? I see it has a perlimnary version of the drupal theme is on github, so i assume "yes".
If that's a yes, how much help do you want? Do you only want css/html/js coding help? do you also want design help? Do you need any php/backend help?
Do you need the work done directly on the drupal theme or just need the html/css/js files and go from there?
Okay, then instead of talking about politics and who knows what better, project needs a clear roadmap.
I think this discussion would be more suitable for a discrod channel or the irc channel but there are many things to talk about and decide before doing any actual development.
First things is to determine the available skill set and time availability of volunteer developers. I am talking as if this is an enterprise software development project, but it IS a software development project and you have to have a actual measure of how much development you can actually do.(you should also consider future maintainability not just development resources available right now)
From there of course people involved should decide on may things. How much custom development drupal 8 vs other alternatives require?(I think amount of custom development went in to the OGA2 backend could give some hints there.) Is it feasible to move on to drupal 8 or use something else developers have more experience on?(Drupal 8 probably cuts down required development work alot though). Will you abondon oga and move to a new site or build on what you already have? Will you try to migrate everyting or archive the forums and use something like discourse for forum side and drupal for the content and only migrate the content? After deciding on those and many others points that will surely come up in discussion, drawing a roadmap should not be too hard.
After you have the roadmap either use gitlab/githubs issues or something like trello to manage development and assign tasks to people.
Actually did not know that. Maybe just pack up, scrape the site and move on to anew place with an open governance model and restart the project, instead of one guy possibly bailing away with patreon money.
Also i get what you mean, from this thread and the redesign thread i thought that the current infrastructure was unsalvagable/unmaintaniable and required a major rewrite. I thought that this was in part because of using many plugins(stated in both threads a couple of times). I know about modules, i use node and npm, i know the idea, i know what they do. But instead of using a module last updated 6 months ago with only 100 downloads last week for a small task, i just go ahead and implement it myself. And i am just not too familiar with drupal scene, but from what i can see not all modules are really updated all the time. Widely used and popular addons probably has an upgrade path and revenue stream but i do not think all 297 of them has that.
Upgrading from current version to drupal 8(probably with many of the 297 addons not updated for 8) will make the data migration a nightmare anyway.
I am sure there are many plugins in that 297 that does a lot of work and heavy lifting, but number 297 also suggets that there are a lot of plugins used for tiny little things. Use maybe 30-40 plugins that do a lot of work, but write others from scratch, especially the ones that do not rely on any data and just modify the ui. Like for example that play button on sound assets, instead of using 3 plugins that result in a play button with a very grotesque markup, add that to OGA master plugin or whatever you want to call it with markup exactly as you want it.
I understand the reason for the use of the drupal and all 297 addons is because limited developer availabilty but maintaning that has to be a NIGHTMARE and a huge time sink when conflicts happend these stuff do not want to work together. Also probably many potential security issues.
I suggest that make it all a custom single OGA plugin. That is if it has to be Drupal. If the avaliable developers have limited Drupal 8 knowledge(D8 kinda has a high barrier for entry), i suggest something like; start with Laravel or Statamic and go from there.
@MedicineStorm,
What i meant by "directly on the drupal theme" was that you have a base development setup/theme and need the html/css work done on those. And by "just html/css/js" i meant that i build or help you build a static html+css+js and we go from there and at the end you convert it to a drupal theme.
Also i installed Drupal 8 and the theme from github on my local machine, but i am not sure if you have a spesific content type/setting stuff going on, or if the drupal 8 plugin work started.
Hello people,
I do not participate much on the forums, but i'd like to chime in.
I am a full stack web developer, i know php,html,css,js(among many other back-end languages and frameworks and many of the popuplar front-end frameworks(vue,angular,react), i can do everything vanilla js too.) This project clearly needs help, and i want to help but i need a few pointers and have few questions.
Do you actually want outside help apart from comments/criticism ? I see it has a perlimnary version of the drupal theme is on github, so i assume "yes".
If that's a yes, how much help do you want? Do you only want css/html/js coding help? do you also want design help? Do you need any php/backend help?
Do you need the work done directly on the drupal theme or just need the html/css/js files and go from there?
Tags are good and all, but imo we also need "Categories".
I know we have categroies like 3d,2d,texture etc. but one more layer of categories could be really usefull.
Characters,Vehicles,Props,Architecture... etc for 3d
Ui,Portraits,Sprites, Tilesets... etc for 3d
Ui, Ambient, Voice... etc for sounds
Concrete,leather,metal,nature,Texture maps for textures
Also this is CC-BY only.
http://www.unbruco.it/offcircle/risorse_en.html -> bottom of the page
fragmotion uses UGH
fragmotion can export to/import from a vast variety of formats, sort of like milkshape but more animation oriented.