I would caution you not to say "most people" unless you have a survey with a decent sample size. :)
That being said, the point you make is a good one. If someone wants to skip story scenes and go right to gameplay, they should be able to do that. There's no reason to force someone to watch story scenes if that's not why they're playing the game.
Some of the people here (myself included) have a fair amount of experience with game programming, so if you get to a point where you have specific questions, feel free to ask. :)
Following those tutorials is an excellent way to get started, though.
@Vidmaster: OGA is about making ART for GAMES. We need to get programmers and artists collaborating, and in order to do that, we should involve programmers too. Having a game making contest is a great way to do that.
It's no secret that I'm a JRPG fan. The story is always a huge part of a JRPG, so I think it's safe to say that I prefer games with a fairly involved storyline. That being said, there are plenty of games I like with little or no story.
I don't consider having even what I would call a radical opinion to be part of a mob mentality. I certainly would not claim that if you're not in the middle ground, you're part of a mob. What I was getting at as far as standing up for the middle ground is the fact that most of the time, the middle ground tends to keep quiet. They shake their heads and facepalm or whatever and then go back about their business. There are plenty of very civil people on both sides of this debate, even the radical parts, and I don't consider them to be part of a mob either.
As for nutty people getting stuff done, I'm not entirely sure that's the case. Take instances of where people have been shouted and threatened into closing down their blogs. Generally, this does two things: a) it proves them right, and b) it makes them into a martyr. Even if you could care less about the actual people on the other side of the debate, acting like a mob is detrimental to your own side. (And as I said, I'm not accusing either radical feminism or MRAs as a group of all being a mob, I'm saying that there are mobs who have these views, and they need to cool down and start acting with some civility.
As for the MRA movement, well, I've seen what their concerns are, and I feel that a lot of them are very valid. I feel the same way about moderate Feminism. The difference, really, is that I've been able to find moderate feminists who I can actualle engage with (that is, who agree that MRA concerns are valid and who don't feel that being an MRA is a Bad Thing), but I have yet to find an avowed MRA who has any opinion about Feminism other than that all feminists are bad. One particular attempt to engage, I talked to a guy for a while and I thought I was making headway, but when I mentioned that not all feminists hold the opinions of radical feminists (and that my wife is a feminist), he linked the Wikipedia article on Stockholm Syndrome, which implies that a) I'm crazy, and b) the person I love the most in the world is holding me hostage. I understand that a lot of this is a backlash against the "fempire" and their ilk, but I feel strongly that people need to be very very careful with the generalizations they make, because they just lead to further polarization and more mobs, and make it impossible for civil people to engage in discussion or meaningful debate. Backlash just leads to more backlash, etc.
On the other hand, part of what I would consider to be a "moderate" viewpoint is that many of the things that both sides bring up are valid issues. We don't have to have a debate about them; we can just address problems as we see them.
I would caution you not to say "most people" unless you have a survey with a decent sample size. :)
That being said, the point you make is a good one. If someone wants to skip story scenes and go right to gameplay, they should be able to do that. There's no reason to force someone to watch story scenes if that's not why they're playing the game.
And now that we've overwhelmed you, it should be clear that there are all sorts of ways to get started on game programming. :)
Some of the people here (myself included) have a fair amount of experience with game programming, so if you get to a point where you have specific questions, feel free to ask. :)
Following those tutorials is an excellent way to get started, though.
Very nice set. Thank you for the submission! :)
Bart
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@Vidmaster: OGA is about making ART for GAMES. We need to get programmers and artists collaborating, and in order to do that, we should involve programmers too. Having a game making contest is a great way to do that.
It's no secret that I'm a JRPG fan. The story is always a huge part of a JRPG, so I think it's safe to say that I prefer games with a fairly involved storyline. That being said, there are plenty of games I like with little or no story.
I love it!
I 'll leave it up unless you specifically want it removed.
Whatever it was you just said, I couldn't have said it better myself. :)
I still think I wasn't quite clear.
I don't consider having even what I would call a radical opinion to be part of a mob mentality. I certainly would not claim that if you're not in the middle ground, you're part of a mob. What I was getting at as far as standing up for the middle ground is the fact that most of the time, the middle ground tends to keep quiet. They shake their heads and facepalm or whatever and then go back about their business. There are plenty of very civil people on both sides of this debate, even the radical parts, and I don't consider them to be part of a mob either.
As for nutty people getting stuff done, I'm not entirely sure that's the case. Take instances of where people have been shouted and threatened into closing down their blogs. Generally, this does two things: a) it proves them right, and b) it makes them into a martyr. Even if you could care less about the actual people on the other side of the debate, acting like a mob is detrimental to your own side. (And as I said, I'm not accusing either radical feminism or MRAs as a group of all being a mob, I'm saying that there are mobs who have these views, and they need to cool down and start acting with some civility.
As for the MRA movement, well, I've seen what their concerns are, and I feel that a lot of them are very valid. I feel the same way about moderate Feminism. The difference, really, is that I've been able to find moderate feminists who I can actualle engage with (that is, who agree that MRA concerns are valid and who don't feel that being an MRA is a Bad Thing), but I have yet to find an avowed MRA who has any opinion about Feminism other than that all feminists are bad. One particular attempt to engage, I talked to a guy for a while and I thought I was making headway, but when I mentioned that not all feminists hold the opinions of radical feminists (and that my wife is a feminist), he linked the Wikipedia article on Stockholm Syndrome, which implies that a) I'm crazy, and b) the person I love the most in the world is holding me hostage. I understand that a lot of this is a backlash against the "fempire" and their ilk, but I feel strongly that people need to be very very careful with the generalizations they make, because they just lead to further polarization and more mobs, and make it impossible for civil people to engage in discussion or meaningful debate. Backlash just leads to more backlash, etc.
On the other hand, part of what I would consider to be a "moderate" viewpoint is that many of the things that both sides bring up are valid issues. We don't have to have a debate about them; we can just address problems as we see them.
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