I sent this message to Free Lives (the BROFORCE developers) on Facebook.
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Someone recently contacted you on FB saying your Wikipedia screenshots were uploaded to OpenGameArt.
I'm a moderator for OpenGameArt -- even if art is CC licensed, it our policy to only offer for download art that the creators INTEND to be reused in other games.
I made a moderator decision that scraping Wikipedia articles for "Free" game art is unethical and not what OpenGameArt is about.
I have removed his submission of BROFORCE material from our site.
If you are ever interested in sharing your art specifically for use in other games, do let us know. But I'm going to assume that Wikipedia is not an acceptable place for our users to plunder art.
Given your stance about "girlish 'people have feelings' nonsense", I trust you won't take it personally when I disable your account access to OpenGameArt.
Thanks for trying to participate, and good luck on your new collection.
chaosesqueteam: I understand how my art might be used when I upload my own art to OpenGameArt. It's ok for people to use my art in games I don't agree with.
Compare to this situation: did BroForce understand their art might be used in competing games when they upload screenshots to Wikipedia?
Part of all of this is us working on upated rules for submitting art. When submitting art that isn't your own, assume NOTHING. Always ask, make sure they want their art on OpenGameArt.
I may ask Bart if the default user can be configured to only allow uploads of their own works. Then, we could have a level of approved users that are able to also submit art created by others. These would be people that know about licenses and our policies on getting permission from artists.
You continue to submit art that is on the boundaries of what's allowed. When you contacted BroForce you were well aware that they did not intend for their art to be reused in competing games.
This will not be the first board you've been banned from for starting trouble. A quick google search shows the issues you caused in /prog/. Do you want to be a contributor to this community, or a source of arguments?
I never want an artist to come to OpenGameArt, see their own work, and become upset -- because they didn't intend to share their art to be reused in other games.
I don't want OpenGameArt to be despised because we're scraping Wikipedia articles for people to use in competing projects.
Or worse, we never want any OpenGameArt users sued for making a game that uses art from another game.
Even if the license says Okay, ask before uploading if you're Not Sure. If it's obvious the artist wants their art to be shared and reused in this way (in other game projects), then you probably don't have to ask. Wikipedia is definitely on the opposite end. Assume people there have NOT shared art with the intention of being used in competing games.
In the BroForce response from FB posted above, that's not confirmation they allow their art on OGA. They are sharing skepticism that anyone could build a whole game with just those parts. That's not consent from the original artist. Consent should be obvious and enthusiastic. "Yes! Please share my art on OGA."
If Bro-force wanted to release their sprites to be reused in another game, they would have released sprite sheets under that license.
These are screenshots for Wikipedia, and Wikipedia requires images with a free license.
Scraping Wikipedia screenshots for reusable art is technically legal, and ethically awful behavior. Regardless of chosen license, if the original owner/artist has not intended for her art to be used in other games, it shouldn't be on OpenGameArt.
Contact BroForce and see if they want their sprites to be reused in other games under CC-BY-SA. If the answer is yes, then we'll upload their original sprite sheets with all parties on the same page.
Side note, I didn't realize that deleting an upload also removed attached comments, possibly before the comment reply emails are sent out. I'll start adding at least a couple days between when I "Flag Licensing Issue" and "Delete" a submission.
MobileGameGraphics submitter, can you send me a message or link that verifies you are the creator or owner of this art, and able to change the license originally specified in the .zip file?
Until then, I have to assume that the art cannot be relicensed without the original copyright owner's consent. As hosting the art here seems to break the stated rules of that custom license (e.g. dont' distritube the art anywhere except through links to our site).
This thread went nowhere useful, and fast.
Locking the thread from new comments.
I sent this message to Free Lives (the BROFORCE developers) on Facebook.
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Response below
Nikita_Sadkov,
Given your stance about "girlish 'people have feelings' nonsense", I trust you won't take it personally when I disable your account access to OpenGameArt.
Thanks for trying to participate, and good luck on your new collection.
Clint
chaosesqueteam: I understand how my art might be used when I upload my own art to OpenGameArt. It's ok for people to use my art in games I don't agree with.
Compare to this situation: did BroForce understand their art might be used in competing games when they upload screenshots to Wikipedia?
Part of all of this is us working on upated rules for submitting art. When submitting art that isn't your own, assume NOTHING. Always ask, make sure they want their art on OpenGameArt.
I may ask Bart if the default user can be configured to only allow uploads of their own works. Then, we could have a level of approved users that are able to also submit art created by others. These would be people that know about licenses and our policies on getting permission from artists.
Nikita,
You continue to submit art that is on the boundaries of what's allowed. When you contacted BroForce you were well aware that they did not intend for their art to be reused in competing games.
This will not be the first board you've been banned from for starting trouble. A quick google search shows the issues you caused in /prog/. Do you want to be a contributor to this community, or a source of arguments?
Nikita_Sadkov,
If you can't understand that this site aims to be both Ethical and Legal, then you are welcome to never submit art here again.
Thank you.
Put another way...
I never want an artist to come to OpenGameArt, see their own work, and become upset -- because they didn't intend to share their art to be reused in other games.
I don't want OpenGameArt to be despised because we're scraping Wikipedia articles for people to use in competing projects.
Or worse, we never want any OpenGameArt users sued for making a game that uses art from another game.
Even if the license says Okay, ask before uploading if you're Not Sure. If it's obvious the artist wants their art to be shared and reused in this way (in other game projects), then you probably don't have to ask. Wikipedia is definitely on the opposite end. Assume people there have NOT shared art with the intention of being used in competing games.
In the BroForce response from FB posted above, that's not confirmation they allow their art on OGA. They are sharing skepticism that anyone could build a whole game with just those parts. That's not consent from the original artist. Consent should be obvious and enthusiastic. "Yes! Please share my art on OGA."
I removed it under these grounds.
If Bro-force wanted to release their sprites to be reused in another game, they would have released sprite sheets under that license.
These are screenshots for Wikipedia, and Wikipedia requires images with a free license.
Scraping Wikipedia screenshots for reusable art is technically legal, and ethically awful behavior. Regardless of chosen license, if the original owner/artist has not intended for her art to be used in other games, it shouldn't be on OpenGameArt.
Contact BroForce and see if they want their sprites to be reused in other games under CC-BY-SA. If the answer is yes, then we'll upload their original sprite sheets with all parties on the same page.
Side note, I didn't realize that deleting an upload also removed attached comments, possibly before the comment reply emails are sent out. I'll start adding at least a couple days between when I "Flag Licensing Issue" and "Delete" a submission.
MobileGameGraphics submitter, can you send me a message or link that verifies you are the creator or owner of this art, and able to change the license originally specified in the .zip file?
Until then, I have to assume that the art cannot be relicensed without the original copyright owner's consent. As hosting the art here seems to break the stated rules of that custom license (e.g. dont' distritube the art anywhere except through links to our site).
Thanks,
Clint
The license included in the zip is not compatible with OpenGameArt.
Are you the original creator or owner of these backgrounds? If so, you can change the license like this. If not, I"ll have to remove this entry.
Disabling this download for licensing issues. If you are able to fix them, I'll restore downloading.
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