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Please use the audio file as the first preview. The first preview file is shown in the site gallery, and people can't listen to a picture that says "announcer pack"
@JaidynReiman: Good. Thanks for tracking all that down. That would suggest this: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes is not outdated. The licensing is correct on that page, but only because it includes content from Joe White, who's derivatives remain CC-BY-SA/GPL. (When there is a pack of assets with various licenses for various subcomponents of the pack, only the most restrictive common license to the entire pack is used as the whole pack's license. Most of the content on that pack is CC-BY-SA, GPL, and OGA-BY, but because Joe White's pants are only CC-BY-SA, and GPL, the "whole pack's license" becomes CC-BY-SA and GPL sans OGA-BY.)
I beleive Death's Darling did update her older entries on OGA to include OGA-BY, but only the ones where all content within the pack was covered by OGA-BY. It is also why this https://opengameart.org/content/liberated-pixel-cup-lpc-base-assets-spri... lists CC-BY-SA and GPL in the sidebar, but has the OGA-BY caveat you mentioned; A lot of the content in that pack is under OGA-BY, but not all of it. If there are any other LPC submissions where it should also include OGA-BY, let me (or Death's Darling) know, because we definitely want that extra freedom on those assets.
"...I can't find any indication that the "original" Long-Sleeve Shirt was not also a derivative of Joe White..." (Conclusion: It isn't a derivative of Joe White's work)
Although Death's Darling's pack that Nyom derived this asset from is not OGA-BY, all the subcomponents used to create this, are.
@Nyom: If you are willing to include it, we would love to have OGA-BY 3.0 listed as one of the licenses for these assets here. :)
ElizaWy's Shortsleeve Shirt is actually dual released under OGA-BY 3.0, CC-BY-SA 3.0, and GPL 3.0
Where is the Shortsleeve shirt released under OGA-BY 3.0? Is the longsleeve shirt based on the shortsleeve shirt? or is Death's Darling's longsleeve based on something else unrelated? Speculating on how it was created is secondary to how Death's Darling herself attributed the derivatives she created.
I'm actually not sure where Joe White comes into play here.
Nor am I. It looks like Joe White created the pants but had no contribution to the shirt. Death's Darling didn't link to any of the other assets she derived hers from, so it's difficult to trace the provenance.
I think the original shirt was by RedShrike. Joe White may have done some modifications later down the line, but for some reason wasn't credited by bluecarrot on the Shortsleeve shirt despite being credited elsewhere.
My guess is Joe White may have made later modifications (to a shirt?) but it was not upstream of bluecarrot's modifications, so was correctly not credited in bluecarrot's modifications. Again, difficult to tell without having links to the specific assets you're referring to.
I question crediting the artist of the base model for adding assets onto the model... IDK if that counts as a derivative or not
Creating assets specifically so a certain base model can "wear" them does not make them derivative of the base model... UNLESS the base model was integral to the creation process of the clothing assets, which is likely the case. If you can make the clothing without referencing or tracing or copying parts from, or materially using the proportion of the base model, then no they aren't derivatives. Is this a shirt derived from flesh? I don't know, but it would explain why Redshrike, as the base model creator, is being credited for derivative clothing. This also applies if the female model was a derivative of the male model, and the shirt was subsequently a derivative of the female model.
the Longsleeve Female shirt by ElizaWy does not appear to be a derivative of the Longsleeve Male Shirt.
Death's Darling indicates the shirt is based on Redshrike's female LPC model: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes which is CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GPL 3.0. It's possible Redshrike changed his license to include OGA-BY after Death's Darling made her derivative, which makes Death's Darling's derivative eligible for OGA-BY, which makes this derivative eligible for OGA-BY as well... but the change has to cascade down from the top first.
I'm also not clear on where Wulax fits in here. Did he make a longsleeve shirt? is it the SAME longsleeve shirt that bluecarrot derived his from? Or did bluecarrot make a separate longsleeve shirt using none of Wulax's shirt and only basing it on Redshrike's base?
TL;DR: Please provide links to the specific assets being referenced. Without that, we can't change anything unless we hear directly from Bluecarrot, Redshrike, and Death's Darling (We can certainly ask them, but I'd like to be sure this isn't a question they already answered via attribution.)
Is it possible you have a cached CREDITS.TXT file on your device? Or you've downloaded the file back when there was only one item in the collection and now your device isn't overwriting the old version with the new one?
No worries. These are still solid gold, my dude.
I'm loving all the voice stuff you're sharing!
These may be usable in broader range of applications if the reverb wasn't added. Or if a non-reverb version was available as well.
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Nice voice work.
Please use the audio file as the first preview. The first preview file is shown in the site gallery, and people can't listen to a picture that says "announcer pack"EDIT: Fixed, thanks! :)
done.
bumped for new content
I am not able to replicate this issue.
@JaidynReiman: Good. Thanks for tracking all that down. That would suggest this: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes is not outdated. The licensing is correct on that page, but only because it includes content from Joe White, who's derivatives remain CC-BY-SA/GPL. (When there is a pack of assets with various licenses for various subcomponents of the pack, only the most restrictive common license to the entire pack is used as the whole pack's license. Most of the content on that pack is CC-BY-SA, GPL, and OGA-BY, but because Joe White's pants are only CC-BY-SA, and GPL, the "whole pack's license" becomes CC-BY-SA and GPL sans
OGA-BY.)I beleive Death's Darling did update her older entries on OGA to include OGA-BY, but only the ones where all content within the pack was covered by OGA-BY. It is also why this https://opengameart.org/content/liberated-pixel-cup-lpc-base-assets-spri... lists CC-BY-SA and GPL in the sidebar, but has the OGA-BY caveat you mentioned; A lot of the content in that pack is under OGA-BY, but not all of it. If there are any other LPC submissions where it should also include OGA-BY, let me (or Death's Darling) know, because we definitely want that extra freedom on those assets.
The good news is, that also addressed this uncertainty of mine:
Although Death's Darling's pack that Nyom derived this asset from is not OGA-BY, all the subcomponents used to create this, are.
@Nyom: If you are willing to include it, we would love to have OGA-BY 3.0 listed as one of the licenses for these assets here. :)
Where is the Shortsleeve shirt released under OGA-BY 3.0? Is the longsleeve shirt based on the shortsleeve shirt? or is Death's Darling's longsleeve based on something else unrelated? Speculating on how it was created is secondary to how Death's Darling herself attributed the derivatives she created.
Nor am I. It looks like Joe White created the pants but had no contribution to the shirt. Death's Darling didn't link to any of the other assets she derived hers from, so it's difficult to trace the provenance.
My guess is Joe White may have made later modifications (to a shirt?) but it was not upstream of bluecarrot's modifications, so was correctly not credited in bluecarrot's modifications. Again, difficult to tell without having links to the specific assets you're referring to.
Creating assets specifically so a certain base model can "wear" them does not make them derivative of the base model... UNLESS the base model was integral to the creation process of the clothing assets, which is likely the case. If you can make the clothing without referencing or tracing or copying parts from, or materially using the proportion of the base model, then no they aren't derivatives. Is this a shirt derived from flesh? I don't know, but it would explain why Redshrike, as the base model creator, is being credited for derivative clothing. This also applies if the female model was a derivative of the male model, and the shirt was subsequently a derivative of the female model.
Death's Darling indicates the shirt is based on Redshrike's female LPC model: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes which is CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GPL 3.0. It's possible Redshrike changed his license to include OGA-BY after Death's Darling made her derivative, which makes Death's Darling's derivative eligible for OGA-BY, which makes this derivative eligible for OGA-BY as well... but the change has to cascade down from the top first.
I'm also not clear on where Wulax fits in here. Did he make a longsleeve shirt? is it the SAME longsleeve shirt that bluecarrot derived his from? Or did bluecarrot make a separate longsleeve shirt using none of Wulax's shirt and only basing it on Redshrike's base?
TL;DR: Please provide links to the specific assets being referenced. Without that, we can't change anything unless we hear directly from Bluecarrot, Redshrike, and Death's Darling (We can certainly ask them, but I'd like to be sure this isn't a question they already answered via attribution.)
Is it possible you have a cached CREDITS.TXT file on your device? Or you've downloaded the file back when there was only one item in the collection and now your device isn't overwriting the old version with the new one?
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